The Great "Whither Libertarians" Debate
Over at Reason, Brink Lindsey is debating Jonah Goldberg and Matt Kibbe about whether libertarians should continue (once again?) ally themselves with the conservative movement and the GOP, or whether they should “go it alone” and “define a new center.” As one would expect, Lindsey opts for the latter while his interlocutors disagree.
I admit, I come at this question more from Goldberg and Kibbe’s perspective than Lindsey’s, but I come to a very different conclusion.
Lindsey looks at the general outlook of libertarians, finds the contemporary right uncongenial, but finds the left basically uncongenial as well. So he wants libertarians to advocate for the whole package on their own, and only ally tactically with one party or the other.
Goldberg and Kibbe basically say: listen: there’s a group of people out there who take seriously one part of the libertarian package, namely the importance of free markets and restraining government intervention in the economy. The Democrats aren’t gonzo on any of it. So fine, dissent from the contemporary right on one thing or another, but your only real, substantial allies are in that quarter.
But I would argue that, over the past thirty years, there has been a vast increase in appreciation of the importance of free markets across the political spectrum. Yes, government spending has spiked way up in the past two years as a consequence of the financial crisis and the recession (TARP, ARRA) – but discretionary non-defense spending is still much lower as a percentage of GDP than it was in 1980. The health care reform passed in this congress reflected a move to the “left” by the country – but it reflected a move to the “right” by the “left” inasmuch as it reflected conservative criticisms of past left-wing health care overhaul plans such as President Clinton’s failed first-term effort. Socialist parties in Europe preside over efforts to overhaul their welfare states to make them more efficient and responsive. Private sector unionization in the United States continues to drop, down to 7.2 percent in 2009. While very recently there’s been a revival of enthusiasm for regulation (particularly of the financial sector), the overall trend has been of more and more widespread acceptance of basic insights from economics that are part of a libertarian’s stock in trade.
So, yes, libertarians should find a friendlier home in the GOP if their priority is pushing the traditional GOP agenda of low taxes and weaker regulation of the economy. But should this be their priority?
Over the same period that saw libertarian priorities in economics relatively ascendant, we have seen a distinctly negative trend in the growth of militarism and the national security state. In principle, this should worry libertarians as much as government intrusion in the economy. In practice, it should worry them more, for two reasons: first, the trend has been in the wrong direction for a while; second, while there are large organized interests fighting against government intrusion in the economy, there are no large organized interests similarly interested in fighting the growth of the national security state.
If what libertarians are interested in doing is shifting the national conversation, they could do the most good by organizing people who are not culturally liberal but who value freedom into opposition to military spending and the cult of national security. If Brink Lindsey and, say, Andrew Bacevich got together to say: listen: moving the national conversation on the security state security and our military posture matters more to freedom today than keeping taxes low, and matters more to each of us than stuff we disagree on like immigration and gay marriage – that would get noticed. Over time, commitments like that could have a real impact – opening up space in one or both parties for candidates to step outside the Washington consensus on these matters without fear of being trampled to death.
Moreover, consider the “Tea Party” movement and its commitments on matters related to the national security state. Are they strong? I somehow doubt it. Rather, I suspect their views are predominantly shaped by the cues they get from elites that they consider culturally relevant. (Note: no disrespect to the Tea Party folks intended; I think this is the way almost everybody, including most people who are politically active, behave.) Libertarians, whatever their views on subjects other than taxes and spending, should find a reasonably welcoming audience at a Tea Party gathering. If you wanted to convince Tea Partiers of one thing that they don’t (by and large) currently believe, one thing that both (a) they might plausibly believe, and (b) makes a real difference to the future of freedom, what would it be? That creationism is an affront to science? That true libertarians should favor open borders? Or that “war is the health of the state” and, that being the case, when a politician conflates patriotism and militarism, you should watch your wallet?
Finally let me make an analogy to the impact of the Liberal Democrats on British politics. In the Thatcher era, what the Lib Dems did was make it possible for the Conservatives to take over by dissenting from Labor in a moderately rightward direction on economic matters, thereby splitting the left. Labor eventually responded, and we got Tony Blair’s “New Labor” which basically disavowed the old-left commitments of his party and got with the program of managing the welfare state within the context of a basically neoliberal free-trading world order.
But “New Labor” was distinctly illiberal on civil liberties issues and distinctly hawkish on national security issues. This left the Lib Dems to dissent from Blair’s Labor to the “left” on these questions. Which, in turn, ultimately led the Tories to shift their ground, to the point where the Lib Dems and Tories are now governing in a coalition that, if they keep their promises, should move the policy needle in the Lib Dems’ direction on both these fronts in a material way. And, more to the point, if the coalition government works then the presumptions of Conservative Party voters about what “good Conservatives” believe about national security and state police powers may change, which could have more lasting effects.
I’m not suggesting that libertarians form a doomed third party or anything of the kind. I am suggesting that libertarians could do more for liberty by pushing on areas that aren’t as well-worked as economic policy and the culture wars, areas where they might plausibly change the emotional dynamic in either or both parties, which is something I think this country dearly needs.
One wee comment on this piece. The Liberal Democrats did not exist during the Thatcher era, only forming at the end of her time in Downing Street.
As far as the tea party and libertarians, many of the tea party people I know are libertarian. Granted I am the Maine coordinator for the non-partisan/fiscal issues only Tea Party Patriots (the largest grouping) which helps a great deal.
— Andrew Ian Dodge · Jul 15, 12:37 PM · #
an interesting point on the national security state as a potential realignment / swing voter issue. one implication of this might be that to broaden the appeal of anti-militarism, especially to the right, it would probably need to be reframed less as an alter-centric “we are an evil empire” to something more ego-centric like “empires don’t do windows.” i can see plenty of rightwing people coming around to the Robert Taft position but not the George McGovern position, even if in practice they cash out similarly. you actually saw something like this with the 2000 GWB campaign slogan of “readiness” but that obviously turned out a little differently than expected
— gabriel · Jul 15, 12:56 PM · #
Re: Lib Dems: I was using shorthand. During the Thatcher era, what is now the Liberal Democrats was an alliance of the Liberals and the Social Democratic Party, who campaigned together but were still separate parties. They merged formally in 1988.
— Noah Millman · Jul 15, 01:06 PM · #
I find nothing I can relate to with the Republicans. Maybe they are fiscally conservative, but there is no such thing as an Austrian Republican. They are all just about Keynesians so even to try to ally myself with conservatives the one place I may find some common ground I would have to piss out the window for their statism.
I’ll stay far away from the GOP and the conservatives. As a libertarian I feel I have less in common with them than the so called liberals.
— PunkJohnnyCash · Jul 15, 04:03 PM · #
How does one “debate” with Jonah Goldberg? It has to be like trying to have a conversation with a block of moldy cheese.
Mike
— MBunge · Jul 15, 04:11 PM · #
We should have a General Smedley Butler Institute of Foreign Policy.
— Steve Sailer · Jul 15, 09:11 PM · #
There are libertarians and there are libertarians. Some are closet Stalinists who could align themselves with left-liberals; others are so ideologically anti-statist that they are worse than useless in fending off things like government takeover of health care. Good luck in finding some pigeon-hole in which they’ll all fit.
— The Reticulator · Jul 15, 10:32 PM · #
LIbertarians who support the GOP over taxes alone puzzle me to no end. Which would you rather have: the Bush II era or the Clinton era? Who can possibly look back on the nineties and think “OMG that was so awful! I never want to have those tax rates again!”
— Derek Scruggs · Jul 15, 11:11 PM · #
I think the Reticulator’s point is very important. Libertarians almost by definition cover a wide spectrum of policy positions. I personally think that this is becasue libertarianism is kind of a catch-all for a certain vauge mind-set. I mean, in one of your sentences, Noah, you define libertarians as people who “value freedom.” WHo doesn’t that group include, at least on a personal level? And I think this near-total vaugeness about what a libertarian is, is the reason libertarianism as an organized political movement is so lame. Republicans are for big buisness, demcrats are for minorities, libertarians are for… what, toll roads? ANd if you are not an efective political movment how can you change anyones mind about militarism?
And I find the idea that there are many people who see themselves as conservative who are also potentially anti-militarist is laughable. Militarism is a subset of respect for, and attraction to authority, which is an essential characteristics of the conservative mind, maybe the essential charcteristic. To me it’s like saying, “lets find some sheep who are having second thoughts about continual bleating and see if the want to join in a rural quiet coalition.”
Not that I am against trying to change the militarist bent of this country. Why don’t you come up with a plan to sway the right side of the mushy middle? For instance, people like those who were once against gay marriage but are now being pulled by the tide to a gay-marriage is probably ok after all position.
But maybe you are talking about an intellctual movement where you sway the elite, who will then sway the electorate. If that’s the case, I think you are overestimating the power of political intellectuals.
— cw · Jul 15, 11:12 PM · #
I agree entirely that both parties push the free market. The Dems favor regulations, yes, but a) so do the Pubs and b) they favor regulations as a way of strengthening the free market. Both parties prattle on endlessly about the ‘global marketplace’ and other constructions. There simply is no evidence that the Democrats would like to institute a planned economy of any kind.
Foreign policy is something most people don’t care about. If there was no one talking about Iran, then most people wouldn’t care less about it. It’s one issue where people take their cues almost entirely from the elites. But people also have no interest in any view of America that doesn’t portray it the greatest thing that is, was, or ever will be; and by extension Americans as the best, smartest, and wisest people in history. In order to make any inroads into militarism, anti-war sentiments will have to avoid any sort of ‘Bad America’ chiding and instead try to redirect the flattery.
— Matt Weber · Jul 16, 09:36 AM · #
This is an excellent post, and it puts into words something I’ve long thought: speaking as a liberal, I believe that conservatives have largely won the argument about free markets, much as they’ve largely lost the argument over social issues. (This is an incredibly crude oversimplification, but will have to suffice for now.) Given that this is the case, libertarians seem to give up whatever political leverage they might have by allying exclusively with the right over economic issues. This is unfortunate, because I too believe our political discourse would be much better served if libertarian thought were better infused in both sides of the political spectrum.
— Adam · Jul 16, 06:06 PM · #
You can call a “cult of national security” or “militarism”, but resorting to force against hostile illiberal regimes is a thoroughly rational policy choice, when the only other choice you are being offered is acquiescence to an international regime that does not and will not ever have the individual’s best interests at heart. And that’s the choice that people have basically been given in the last decade (as Mr. Millman began to suggest in a previous post) in a time where “liberal internationalists” have decided they’ll support the rights of states, over the rights of individuals, no matter how brutally states act within their own borders.
Libertarians of the other fusion — those who have bought into a paleoconservative foreign policy — may want to deny this and pine for a glorious past where isolation from the world made daily life less troubling, but until libertarians start applying some of their supposedly uncompromising dedication to principle to figuring out how to fix a decidedly illiberal international system that venerates the rights of states above else, “liberalism with low taxes” plus automatic deference to foreign states isn’t going to define a winning coalition, or even a libertarian one.
— Tarpok · Jul 16, 08:23 PM · #
I always fogured libertarians focused on economic issues because in many cases, they are the hardest laws to break. When there’s a law against smoking pot, you can grow some in your closet. When it’s illegal to get a blowjob from someone… who cares? With regard to foreign policy, if you don’t like wars, well, it;s an all volunteer military. But to avoid income taxes, you need to create a black market economy. Or not work. I am sure there are counterexamples. But this always struck me as important.
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— wholesale mac cosmetics · Jul 16, 10:26 PM · #
Generally a well-thought piece, and I agree with the point that libertarians should focus on anti-militarism and against the police state. But you have swallowed whole one of the Republican Party’s Great Deceptions, and that is that the GOP champions “free markets.” It does nothing of the kind, although it mendaciously uses that label to cover what it actually does: support is a managed-market system with the managers being friendly to politically-connected business interests.
In an actual free market, there would be no corporate subsidies of any kind, no cartel-enhancing regulation, and, ultimately, no central bank. What libertarians envision and what conservatives envision as a “free market” are as far apart as are V.I. Lenin’s and Angela Merkel’s visions of “socialism.”
To be sure, a great many libertarians have fallen for that deception, or played along with it for tactical reasons, only to find now to their dismay that the manifest failures of the managed-market program have tarnished arguments for genuinely free markets.
I think a good way for libertarians to recover lost credibility is to follow your suggestion, focus now on foreign policy and the police state, thus distancing ourselves from the GOP its program. And eventually, the inevitable failures of Democratic market-management will again prompt a willingness to consider a truly free-market alternative.
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